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Gregory Garretson's avatar

Let me add a couple of observations to this very good report from Laura. I'm an American who lived in Sweden for over ten years, worked for the Swedish state, and speaks Swedish fluently. I started out really liking it there, in part because I think I was in love with the _idea_ of Sweden (as are so many Americans): free health care, free education, free access to nature, low crime rates, etc. But after several years, it started to lose its shine for me. I worked in the education sector, and I saw that the level of quality there was not nearly what it could be; I also saw that the quality of healthcare was actually not very good--though when it's free, it's hard to complain.

Also (and here I disagree slightly with what Laura says) things are EXPENSIVE in Sweden: housing is crazy, owning a car costs a lot, public transportation is terribly expensive, food is very costly, and the cost of eating out is just nuts—especially alcohol. If you are comparing prices there to the US at the present moment, it may seem reasonable, but you should realize that other parts of Europe are much cheaper. And salaries in Sweden are not high at all, so people who are not employed as bank executives have to be quite frugal.

But the thing that caused me to leave Sweden (it wasn't the climate, though of course that is a massive disadvantage, and decisive for many) was the culture. Laura describes this accurately, in my view: people do not want or need you. It is extremely difficult to find Swedish friends, and once you do, they will generally not treat you the way you might want friends to treat you. For example, I actually had lots of friends in Sweden, most of whom were very happy to see me two or three times a year. And then, they usually didn't want to talk about personal topics. In other words, acquaintances are common, but real friends are extremely rare. I found that having few good friends during the long, dark winters was a depressing experience.

That said, I still love many things about Sweden (I talk about them sometimes in my own Substack). It's a real love-hate relationship, but isn't that the case any time you've lived in a country for ten years or more?

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maryse's avatar

What I’ve noticed as I read about American expats (I follow several) is that in most cases they are self employed writers or artists or other creative. I work for a global tech company so I could probably continue working remotely overseas but I imagine it would be very difficult to find the same job on my own even with the appropriate work permits.

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