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Based in Paris's avatar

Elizabeth, standing ovation. 👏🏼👏🏼 Moving to Europe does not solve your problems.

1.) I'm married to a French man and spoke some French when I arrived in France, but this has been one of the most challenging, isolating, and stressful experiences of my life. *And I used to work politics in DC!*.

2.) The "European Dream" industrial complex omits issues like cultural difference (the cultures are more different than people let on...), language barriers, loneliness, homesickness. Americans will be surprised at how much France is a relatively "closed" culture (do not come for me in the comments- this is well-documented.)

3.) They don't mention the pesky fact that European salaries are, on average, far lower than American. The best way to "live the European dream" is to get rich in America then move overseas!

4.) When they boast of "free" services like healthcare and daycare they don't mention the eye-watering tax rates in most European countries. (Not starting a political war on here, this is a fact.)

5.) Do you like a takeout salad on occasion? Clothes dyers? Air conditioning? Target? TJ Maxx? You'll be SOL in most of Europe.

6.) Last, and not least, when you move to Europe, you will bring your insecurities, anxieties, sensitive issues, and anything else you might be working on.

I'm not sharing this to put down Europe, start an online war about healthcare policy, or put down anyone's dream or experience.

But for God's sake, moving to Europe will not solve your problems.

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Liya Marie's avatar

It's not that there's no trade-offs. Virtually everywhere you live has positives and negatives (the trick is to determine which set of positives/negatives work for you at that point in time). But living in Europe can just generally be preferable. It was only when I left North America that I discovered I am not made for the way that North America has decided to develop itself. I need the kind of development that you find in Asia/Europe. That lifestyle so broadly improves my quality of life, and living in a car-obsessed culture so broadly degrades my quality of life, that I have never returned to the United States.

There are a lot of shaky comparisons out there. It's common for people to say things like, "Your salary in the United States is much higher than in Europe". These are often poor points of comparison (your costs in the United States – for education, for health care, for pharmaceuticals, for owning a vehicle or two, for all that overconsumption, for so many things – are also much higher, so you'd better earn more!). Actual differences lie in things like access to public transportation and quality of food, say. When your point of comparison is "I've got a more satisfying job, I can save more, I love learning languages, I run into friends all the time just going about my day, and my 10-minute commute by subway is SO much more preferable to my 90-minute commute by car to a shittier job because I couldn't secure anything else from my place in a suburb outside the city because I could never afford to live downtown, which means I had to pre-plan events to hang out with friends because you'll never just run into someone you know", well, that indicates a drastic change in lifestyle. And in that light, Europe does solve a lot of problems.

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